Noel Fogelman: Expansion and The Islanders

Noel Fogelman: Expansion and The Islanders
- Noel Fogelman

If Boychuk could be exposed, I could see Pelech protected over Jonny.... Plus it seems the isles are in pretty good position on who to protect & what to leave exposed...

You can only lose one guy so it's gonna be a middle six guy most likely or a bottom 4-6 d man boychuk leddy hammer pulock get protected

LOL

No ones taking Halak

Wishful thinking at its finest

LOL

No ones taking Halak

Wishful thinking at its finest
- TheGame316

ok....

If it's one expansion team then Halak won't be getting picked up. Unless some serious restructuring (i.e., trades) are coming this off-season then there is way too much goalie quality available to go with someone like Halak.

Andersen/Gibson
Bishop/Vasilevskiy
Fleury/Murray
Elliot/Allen
Niemi/Lehtonen
Hutchinson/Hellebuyck

Probably even more that I'm missing. I don't think Halak makes the cut and I also don't think the Vegas team will have any trouble getting to 60% of the cap.

If it's one expansion team then Halak won't be getting picked up. Unless some serious restructuring (i.e., trades) are coming this off-season then there is way too much goalie quality available to go with someone like Halak.

Andersen/Gibson
Bishop/Vasilevskiy
Fleury/Talbot
Elliot/Allen
Niemi/Lehtonen
Hutchinson/Hellebuyck

Probably even more that I'm missing. I don't think Halak makes the cut and I also don't think the Vegas team will have any trouble getting to 60% of the cap.
- RonPielep

- Ur Not Me

Hahaha my bad. Fixed.

If it's one expansion team then Halak won't be getting picked up. Unless some serious restructuring (i.e., trades) are coming this off-season then there is way too much goalie quality available to go with someone like Halak.

Andersen/Gibson
Bishop/Vasilevskiy
Fleury/Murray
Elliot/Allen
Niemi/Lehtonen
Hutchinson/Hellebuyck

Probably even more that I'm missing. I don't think Halak makes the cut and I also don't think the Vegas team will have any trouble getting to 60% of the cap.
- RonPielep

Don't forget, an expansion team is unlikely to just take 2 goalies, they will probably take 3, send one down.

Bishop will be UFA a week after draft, Vasilevsky protected.
Elliott will be UFA a week after draft, Allen protected.

So really, if Pens trade Fleury this summer, which seems more and more likely with what Murray is doing right now; you have Ducks losing a goalie, Jets losing Hellebuyck who'll get sent down, and then the team left deciding between someone like Halak or someone like Lehtonen. At that point, I think it comes down to who else is unprotected on each team.

Don't forget, an expansion team is unlikely to just take 2 goalies, they will probably take 3, send one down.

Bishop will be UFA a week after draft, Vasilevsky protected.
Elliott will be UFA a week after draft, Allen protected.

So really, if Pens trade Fleury this summer, which seems more and more likely with what Murray is doing right now; you have Ducks losing a goalie, Jets losing Hellebuyck who'll get sent down, and then the team left deciding between someone like Halak or someone like Lehtonen. At that point, I think it comes down to who else is unprotected on each team.
- Antilles

True if neither of them are extended. I'd also think Hellebuyck will have graduated to full-time NHL backup by then and the Las Vegas team can take another promising young G with two years pro experience (maybe Broissoit or Saros?) to send down.

In many expansion drafts, and I am sure this one will be no different, there will be some wheeling and dealing as Vegas makes selections. I could see the Islanders packaging Grabo and Kuli with a trade of draft picks and a player that the Islanders want from another team that Vegas could draft and then turn around and trade. In essence they could even do something along the lines of Grabo, Kuli, and Halak plus a 1 rd in 2019 for Winnipeg's Connor Hellebuyck and Anaheim's Shea Theodore plus a 2nd in 2019. If the deal was worked out beforehand, it would or could be good for both teams.

In many expansion drafts, and I am sure this one will be no different, there will be some wheeling and dealing as Vegas makes selections. I could see the Islanders packaging Grabo and Kuli with a trade of draft picks and a player that the Islanders want from another team that Vegas could draft and then turn around and trade. In essence they could even do something along the lines of Grabo, Kuli, and Halak plus a 1 rd in 2019 for Winnipeg's Connor Hellebuyck and Anaheim's Shea Theodore plus a 2nd in 2019. If the deal was worked out beforehand, it would or could be good for both teams.
- temmer29

So a pile of crap and a 1st for a stud D prospect, stud G prospect and a 2nd?

In many expansion drafts, and I am sure this one will be no different, there will be some wheeling and dealing as Vegas makes selections. I could see the Islanders packaging Grabo and Kuli with a trade of draft picks and a player that the Islanders want from another team that Vegas could draft and then turn around and trade. In essence they could even do something along the lines of Grabo, Kuli, and Halak plus a 1 rd in 2019 for Winnipeg's Connor Hellebuyck and Anaheim's Shea Theodore plus a 2nd in 2019. If the deal was worked out beforehand, it would or could be good for both teams.
- temmer29

Jets are protecting Hellebuyck they will expose Comrie

Jets are protecting Hellebuyck they will expose Comrie
- Dan Petriw

Can the isles expose YOU & Noel ....????

So a pile of crap and a 1st for a stud D prospect, stud G prospect and a 2nd?
- RonPielep

He's Canadian, so what did u expect..???

In many expansion drafts, and I am sure this one will be no different, there will be some wheeling and dealing as Vegas makes selections. I could see the Islanders packaging Grabo and Kuli with a trade of draft picks and a player that the Islanders want from another team that Vegas could draft and then turn around and trade. In essence they could even do something along the lines of Grabo, Kuli, and Halak plus a 1 rd in 2019 for Winnipeg's Connor Hellebuyck and Anaheim's Shea Theodore plus a 2nd in 2019. If the deal was worked out beforehand, it would or could be good for both teams.
- temmer29

In many expansion drafts, and I am sure this one will be no different, there will be some wheeling and dealing as Vegas makes selections. I could see the Islanders packaging Grabo and Kuli with a trade of draft picks and a player that the Islanders want from another team that Vegas could draft and then turn around and trade. In essence they could even do something along the lines of Grabo, Kuli, and Halak plus a 1 rd in 2019 for Winnipeg's Connor Hellebuyck and Anaheim's Shea Theodore plus a 2nd in 2019. If the deal was worked out beforehand, it would or could be good for both teams.
- temmer29

please stop.

If it's one expansion team then Halak won't be getting picked up. Unless some serious restructuring (i.e., trades) are coming this off-season then there is way too much goalie quality available to go with someone like Halak.

Andersen/Gibson
Bishop/Vasilevskiy
Fleury/Murray
Elliot/Allen
Niemi/Lehtonen
Hutchinson/Hellebuyck

Probably even more that I'm missing. I don't think Halak makes the cut and I also don't think the Vegas team will have any trouble getting to 60% of the cap.
- RonPielep

"Sportnet's Chris Johnston clarified that players with no move clauses that include a limited no trade clause must still be protected. That covers players like Pittsburgh’s Marc-Andre Fleury."

Can the isles expose YOU & Noel ....????
- Ur Not Me

Why the hell would Vegas want either of us hacks?

Why the hell would Vegas want either of us hacks?
- Dan Petriw

In many expansion drafts, and I am sure this one will be no different, there will be some wheeling and dealing as Vegas makes selections. I could see the Islanders packaging Grabo and Kuli with a trade of draft picks and a player that the Islanders want from another team that Vegas could draft and then turn around and trade. In essence they could even do something along the lines of Grabo, Kuli, and Halak plus a 1 rd in 2019 for Winnipeg's Connor Hellebuyck and Anaheim's Shea Theodore plus a 2nd in 2019. If the deal was worked out beforehand, it would or could be good for both teams.
- temmer29

Why the hell would Vegas want either of us hacks?
- Dan Petriw

They're probably looking for a Brian Erni type.

Why the hell would Vegas want either of us hacks?
- Dan Petriw

Sheri's Ranch .....

In many expansion drafts, and I am sure this one will be no different, there will be some wheeling and dealing as Vegas makes selections. I could see the Islanders packaging Grabo and Kuli with a trade of draft picks and a player that the Islanders want from another team that Vegas could draft and then turn around and trade. In essence they could even do something along the lines of Grabo, Kuli, and Halak plus a 1 rd in 2019 for Winnipeg's Connor Hellebuyck and Anaheim's Shea Theodore plus a 2nd in 2019. If the deal was worked out beforehand, it would or could be good for both teams.
- temmer29

Lemme get this straight, the Isles are going to contact Vegas. Tell them to draft hellebuyck and Theodore, so they can turn around and trade them to us for our garbage contracts and a 1st rounder?

First I'm going to say... no way they'd ever do this. ..

and also...

do things actually happen like this? Can someone give me an example like this happening in the last expansion draft?

Did we sign Stamkos yet